The Common Veteran’s Season 2
Episode 4: Let’s Talk About War
“War, huh, yeah… What is it good for?” The Common Veterans take on war – the amount of Veterans that have fought in combat – or been to a combat zone, and why it is so hard to transition back into a noncombatant once back home…
I) Defining War and Combat Experiences
a. What is war?
i. Is it just a state of mind or an actual state of being?
b. What is considered a combat experience?
i. Combat arms vs. Support
1. Define POG
2. Define Combatant
II) What does war do to Veterans?
a. Is it an all-one-size-fits-all situation?
i. How much does one’s mindset play a role in combat?
ii. Does being physically fit change the mental aspect of things?
b. Any stories of war that can be told to emphasize what it means to be a warrior?
i. Combat explosions
ii. Door kicking
iii. Medical aspects
iv. Support for…
III) Transitioning back to civilians… Uh what?!
a. Support systems that… well.. support!
i. Family doesn’t always understand
ii. Vet organizations such as VFW, DAV, American Legion
iii. Nonprofits: FSO, Team RWB, Get Wet for a Vet. Etc…
b. Linking PTSD to TBI to survivor’s guilt to readjusting to civilian life
i. Mental health is not often right away
IV) Continuing on, what’s next?
a. Figure out your triggers are:
i. What is a trigger?
ii. How do we become the next level combatant?
V) Next Podcast: Episode 5: Proud to be an American
a. The Common Veterans are all United States Military Veterans. Pride in the country is pride in their service because they were willing to write a blank check to include up to their lives. The life of a Veteran often revolves around their service and how much they love their country. The Common Veterans discuss their love for God and country.
The belief that dying in battle brings soldiers to the table of Odin. The Common Veterans take on the sensitive topic of suicide and PTSD.
** WARNING ** This episode discusses a very sensitive subject with Common Veterans. This episode discusses suicide, religion, the different beliefs of certain religions, and triggers that could be hard to handle.
I. Introductions
a. Which of us has experienced someone that has suicided or attempted suicide
i. Fred
ii. Jeff
iii. Tony
iv. Kenny
II. Let's talk about life.
a. Being a Veteran means that one has signed a blank check to the government for them to cash, up to life itself
i. Being killed in combat is not suicide
ii. Suicide is illegal in the military
1. Suicide is illegal in most of the United States and goes against the Constitution of the United States – “Pursuit of happiness…”
b. Cannot separate body and soul
i. Separating the soul from the body is death
1. Souls go where the body has been commended to
a. Heaven
b. Hell
c. Purgatory (?)
c. Religions do not condone suicide
i. Christianity
1. Martyrism – certain death, but saving lives
ii. Muslim
1. Suicide bombing to certain sects gets them Virgins
iii. Judaism
1. Assisted suicide from a doctor to maintain
iv. Shinto
1. Only as an act of selflessness
III. Valhalla
a. Valhalla, Old Norse Valhöll, in Norse mythology, is the hall of slain warriors who live there blissfully under the leadership of the god Odin (Encyclopedia Brittanica)
i. Modern Day Interpretations are that this is the “Warrior’s Heaven”
1. Dying in combat sends you to Valhalla
a. This was the old Norse thought
b. Valhalla today is not always “combat related”
IV. Modern Day Valhalla
a. The interpretation often for modern-day Valhalla is that Valhalla is for anyone who sees combat and dies regardless of their death.
i. This often includes suicide with the response of “Til Valhalla!”
1. This frequently glorifies suicide and states that you’ll be in a Heaven type environment once your soul is separated from your body
2. As we discussed earlier there is no religion that condones suicide
b. Many people discuss that for it to be suicide you have to be in the right headspace and timing
i. Anyone that creates suicide are not in the right headspace
1. Mental health illness is very real and usually puts people in the wrong frame of mind
2. Being depressed does not make you suicidal
V. Suicide is Selfish
a. Suicide is a selfish act and it doesn’t only take away from the suicided, but the family and love ones of the suicided
i. Makes things difficult for people who loved the suicided
1. Trauma for whomever finds and/or cleans up the mess made
2. Loved ones wonder why
a. Even with a suicide note on why there is often something left out and the reason is never really ever uncovered
b. No suicide note = never having closure
i. Speculation only
ii. Renders any act of selflessness useless
1. Committing suicide is selfish and any aid that was given to others makes it useless
VI. Closing up
a. Review what has been discussed
i. Life
ii. Separation of Body and Soul
iii. Religions
iv. VALHALLA
v. Selfishness
b. Where to get help
i. National Suicide Hotline
1. 988
2. 1-800-273-TALK(8255)
ii. Veteran Suicide Hotline
1. 988 Option 1
iii. VetCenter
iv. FreedomSystem.org
v. 22 Until None
vi. Other Veteran Organizations
VII. Next Episode: Episode 10 Friends in Low Places
a. VFW, DAV, American Legion, Marine Corps League, and other fraternal organizations are out there for Veterans. This breakdown of the organizations talks to members and the benefit of the camaraderie that these programs provide. The Common Veterans represent FreedomSystem.org’s martial arts and mountain bike association.